Friday, August 31, 2007

QuestNet good or bad ?

Quest NET is a FALSE-BUSINESS.

CHAT BETWEEN TWO FRIENDS , ONE GUY IS Q-NET IR (IR -> INDEPENDENT REPRESENTATIVE) AND ANOTHER GUY THINKS RATIONALLY ABOUT IT.

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:: Q-Net IR :: :)

:: Rational Thinker :: wats up?

:: Q-Net IR :: ennna ............ theeviramaaaaaaaa alasitiyaaaaaaa??????

:: Q-Net IR :: bout Quest

:: Rational Thinker :: yup..

:: Q-Net IR :: ennna... theliva iruntha unna confuse panni vittutaenaaaaaaaa

:: Q-Net IR :: ?

:: Rational Thinker :: no.. im very eager to learn about it..

:: Q-Net IR :: learn panni enna panna poara.....

:: Rational Thinker :: I need to put some query on LAWERS OF INDIA-community in orkut regarding this..

who give some extra details usually..

:: Rational Thinker :: I need to know the reason.. i cant simply refuse joining without any reason .. right??

:: Q-Net IR :: dai............

:: Q-Net IR :: even in chennai _ ADYAR POLICE STATION SP is in ...

:: Q-Net IR :: hahhah

:: Rational Thinker :: Adyar police also rape common people !!!

:: Q-Net IR :: hahhahhhhhhahahhah

:: Q-Net IR :: timely joke

:: Rational Thinker :: So you say.. I should also rape :)))

:: Q-Net IR :: apram enna mayiruku "LAWERS OF INDIA" ku poara.........................

:: Q-Net IR :: :)

:: Q-Net IR :: ithu epdi iruku

:: Q-Net IR :: enna reply ae kaanum

:: Rational Thinker :: It is a discussion of many people.. It is not necessarily a solution.. you need to infer from it..

:: Q-Net IR :: dai.... im jus kiddin da

:: Q-Net IR :: don tak it as serious

:: Rational Thinker :: dai.. regading quest net.. i need solution.. i wont take other things serious..

but till i find some solution, for this i need to be serious..

:: Rational Thinker :: tats it..

:: Rational Thinker :: only hot discussions can give solutions..

:: Rational Thinker :: i guess..

:: Q-Net IR :: of course da.........

:: Q-Net IR :: tell me what do u exactly need

:: Rational Thinker :: I cant ask questions to u.. Bcoz u try to give answers for all..

You should start to think about statement b4 trying to give answers..

:: Rational Thinker :: NOw.. consider a CAT question.. if you are asked to assume you should assume and not argue....

:: Q-Net IR :: when u fail to listen u fail to communicate... when u fail to communicate u fail to learn...

when u fail to learn u fail to grow........

:: Q-Net IR :: so (I will) first Listen what u say

:: Rational Thinker :: Consider QN stops business today... What will happen to the 30k investors at the base of pyramid?

:: Q-Net IR :: simple

:: Q-Net IR :: the same case when TCS stops payin salaries to employees

:: Rational Thinker :: You dint answered my question... I dont know what would happen..

:: Q-Net IR :: as i said......... the Qn is giving you a product...... i like that product so i am refering my

friends.....( say for eg - i like PULSAR very much... so i am refering my friend to tak the

same)............. the business part is an additional thing.......

:: Rational Thinker :: did you read the mail i sent you.. MY Analysis..?

:: Q-Net IR :: i read those blogs long b4..... even i saw some of ur analysis points before i joinin qn

:: Q-Net IR :: i read ur mail too

:: Rational Thinker :: Do you say there is no middleman in this?

:: Q-Net IR :: yes.... u think DELL has some middlemen in their business....

:: Q-Net IR :: ofcourse no

:: Q-Net IR :: u r dealin directly with the company.......

:: Q-Net IR :: i am booking my products directly from Qn site

:: Rational Thinker :: Why QN cant sell product like dell, i.e. without referring?

:: Q-Net IR :: I said rite... it s a type of e-commerce busi

:: Q-Net IR :: 1 sec da (went out for a call.. and came back)

:: Q-Net IR :: why DELL opting this strategy...????

:: Q-Net IR :: those are one of the markrting strategies da

:: Q-Net IR :: each and every company having diff strategies,....

:: Q-Net IR :: so that only they can win in the race

:: Q-Net IR :: 1 sec.... (busy in work.. went away )

:: Q-Net IR :: yes.. im back

:: Rational Thinker :: I agree. the marketing model is different.. but ultimately any model, a company adopts, should

benefit people (i.e. good quality for less price). Why should this model of business make high

price for less priced one..

:: Q-Net IR :: b4 answering this ques... can i ask u a ques

:: Q-Net IR :: ?

:: Rational Thinker :: yup..

:: Q-Net IR :: how much a REEBOK shoe costs...or a PETER ENGLAND...or an ALLEN SOLLY.../????

:: Rational Thinker :: 1100 - 3000

:: Q-Net IR :: did u remember... v got shoes for 350 rs while v studyin in college

:: Q-Net IR :: what is the diff?

:: Rational Thinker :: still i cant agree the quality of Branded is comparable with 350rs shoes.. those are rexins.

:: Q-Net IR :: see...one thing keep it in mind........ Im not arguing with you..... be clear...

:: Q-Net IR :: i am giving u the answers....

:: Q-Net IR :: hahhahhahhahah

:: Rational Thinker :: ok wats the point u want to convey?

:: Q-Net IR :: Peter england shirts are exported from india,,,,,, especially from tirupur.........

:: Rational Thinker :: s

:: Q-Net IR :: one more ex... one of friend is in Textile exports company.... they are producing GAP jatti's

:: Rational Thinker :: :D

:: Q-Net IR :: he s sayin that the manufacturing cost is ...include overhead...qlty...... he is gettin that brand

jatti from his company for 50 rs........

:: Q-Net IR :: b4 exporting

:: Rational Thinker :: ya.. we all know that..

:: Q-Net IR :: while it is coming to india once again as a prdt ...it costs some 500 - 1000 rs

:: Q-Net IR :: what im goin to convey is.........

:: Rational Thinker :: YUp that is the price after export(from India)-testing-branding-advertising-export(from foreign to India)..

:: Rational Thinker :: some export-import taxes are also involved.. im sure they are paying these taxes to respective governments..

:: Q-Net IR :: 1 sec da...

:: Q-Net IR :: urgent call

:: Rational Thinker :: sure.. take ur time..

:: Rational Thinker :: Also one more question regarding this.. If Nathella Sampathu Chetty can sell a gold coin for 6k bugs after all over-head costs, why cant QN? The numismatics stuff is the magic word they use to answer this.. In name of numismatics the coin is forcefully given for 30k to a new joinee (who actually comes to know abt this term after buying it!!!). So the coin is not sold because it is a numismatic-stuff.. Actually it is sold and said to be numismatic-stuff for answering the high price.

:: Q-Net IR :: 1 sec da

:: Q-Net IR :: reading ur ques

:: Q-Net IR :: let me tell you the split ups.....

:: Rational Thinker :: plz

:: Q-Net IR :: 6k - coin worth,

:: Q-Net IR :: 11,500 - comission for 6 people in the whole network

:: Q-Net IR :: 2500 - Life time courier charges

:: Q-Net IR :: royalty - differs from coin to coin 9 2.5 K to ___)

:: Q-Net IR :: if the coin is within 30 K the Qn's profit is around 3 K

:: Q-Net IR :: kooti kalichi paaaru

:: Q-Net IR :: If u take it as raw gold-------- it will go for 6K

:: Rational Thinker :: but why to give comission for a coin, which you can get without comission.. If you get a house without brokerage and another with brokerage.. which one will you prefer?

:: Q-Net IR :: b4 that-------- why u r bidding an antique products for a higher cost............

:: Q-Net IR :: say for ex _ some paintings or may be some King's face minted coins etc........

:: Q-Net IR :: or a BAT used by sachin Tendulkar

:: Rational Thinker :: Do you say the coin (atleast in lakhs of no.s in hands of QN-IR) is a rare one?

:: Q-Net IR :: as i said..... Qn releases 1999-9999 coins only

:: Q-Net IR :: with respective of the demand

:: Q-Net IR :: eg- they may release 9999 DIANA coins ............ for some other product like tamil actor SIVAJI

coin around 1999 pieces

:: Q-Net IR :: of course...it become rare rite

:: Q-Net IR :: can u get my point

:: Rational Thinker :: This is the strategy... here lies their trick.. I don’t believe it is rare and worth it..

:: Q-Net IR :: come on man...........

:: Rational Thinker :: Did you got the coin because you can sell it later in auction? Be honest...

:: Q-Net IR :: sorry

:: Q-Net IR :: honestly speakin.......... i thought it is the secondary business

:: Rational Thinker :: And are you sure the coin in your hand will be sold atleat for 30k when you auction it?

:: Q-Net IR :: one question …

:: Rational Thinker :: yup

:: Q-Net IR :: I saw the proofs -- Lord balaji coin bid for rs 1 lac 90 thousand

:: Q-Net IR :: u go ebay site

:: Q-Net IR :: n check it out

:: Rational Thinker :: Who was the fool to get the coin.. He must be the biggest fool in the world... he could have joined QN and got Lord Balaji coin for 30k!!!!!!

:: Q-Net IR :: for some people "cricket" is religion for some Cricket is a game and for some cricket is Rubbish

:: Q-Net IR :: Perspectives differ

:: Q-Net IR :: from ur perpespective that person is a fool

:: Q-Net IR :: from my perspective he considers Balaji a reverred coin

:: Rational Thinker :: Why dont you sell your coin in auction.. you can get atleast 1 lakh..

:: Q-Net IR :: not now

:: Q-Net IR :: i have earned a lot in this business and i have an emotion attachment towards that coin

:: Rational Thinker :: Do you think it is possible for QN to make some person to get some coins in ebay for the purpose of eye-washing QN-IRs ?

:: Q-Net IR :: yes its possible

:: Q-Net IR :: and anybody can do that

:: Q-Net IR :: so wats ur ques

:: Rational Thinker :: Ok.. Is there a way to find which coins are stopped production by QN.. and .. How much of those coins are sold in ebay..?

:: Rational Thinker :: MY QUES IS... Is it possible The coins are got in ebay only by some underground people who are fed by QN

:: Q-Net IR :: thats ur allegation assumption and perhaps may be true

:: Q-Net IR :: but in real scenario coins are bought only by high and elite customers -- say a business man

earning in crores

:: Q-Net IR :: but it is only we people take the business part and doing it

:: Rational Thinker :: Don’t you see Tamil movies... the big shots are always a branding tool..

:: Q-Net IR :: thats a kind of smart work i would say

:: Rational Thinker :: Why cant they put some bucks in big-shots pocket to get the coins.. say.. they give 1.6lakh to them to get a coin worth 1.5 lakhs.. OR even.. the bigshot himself was a partner of QN. which u are not aware

:: Q-Net IR :: i am really awestruck at ur comments

:: Q-Net IR :: why do u imagine such silly things when a company earning 8 billion dollar a year( TCS 4 billion$)is doing these gimmicks

:: Rational Thinker :: ONE THING I WANT TO SAY:::::::: YOU CAN MAKE MONEY, IF YOU CAN JOIN PEOPLE UNDER YOU. BUT IT IS NOT GOOD, ETHICALLY...

:: Rational Thinker :: IF YOU WANT TO FOOL OTHERS, DO IT IN CRORES... NOT IN THOUSANDS...

:: Q-Net IR :: if this is the only thing that hinders u into this business ?

:: Q-Net IR :: see , there is nothing called a wrong business in this world

:: Q-Net IR :: even TCS earns billions even when u sit idle ,,,, say he earns 2.5 lacs from u .. but what is the

salary that u get

:: Q-Net IR :: and the pressure u face

:: Q-Net IR :: its a business

:: Q-Net IR :: thats it

:: Q-Net IR :: some people may ethically see it an act of slavery

:: Q-Net IR :: some a great marketing strategy

:: Rational Thinker :: Hey man, Business is all about profit.. But there is a margin for profit... TCS is also ethically

wrong... But to some extent... But don’t ask question "Then why are you working in TCS?"... It is

similar to "If you don’t support Indian-cricket team, then why are you living in India?"

:: Q-Net IR :: wats this "TCS is also ethically wrong.. But to some extent" i dont understand

:: Rational Thinker :: TCS get 1 lakh per month for you.. But they give 1/3 to you...

:: Q-Net IR :: whats the extent here >>>> if its ethically wrong its wrong anyway .... not to some extent

:: Q-Net IR :: so 2/3 ?

:: Rational Thinker :: Clearly they are wrong.. Something similar to quest net... But the effect of money-inflation will

not be like Quest Net...

:: Rational Thinker :: QN is 4 or 5 folds than TCS

:: Q-Net IR :: from the flow of the conversation i could infer onething clearly .. It goes in an

argumentative.... I dont want to damage the relationship bt us because of this I do this business

with full of faith and conscience ... I beleive in GOD and everyone in this business also does

this business in an ethical way....

:: Q-Net IR :: The way we converse is also polarised -- I speak abt ++ and u speak abt -----

:: Rational Thinker :: There are lot of business like this b4.. It will start-- - grow---stop... the people at the stop

time will suffer... but they forget soon as they loose 30k...Not a very big money...

:: Q-Net IR :: so wats ur conclusion

:: Rational Thinker :: It will make a person rich and richest.. Consider money accumulating with TATAs and QN.. TATAs are

going to invest within INDIA. But QN will never ever..

:: Q-Net IR :: is this ur conclusion ?

:: Rational Thinker :: TCS actually satisfy many customers by providing what they want.. Did questnet sell the product

you want?

:: Q-Net IR :: so basically u dont believe a foreign organisation doing referral marketing in INDIA ?

:: Rational Thinker :: According to me.. This is a false-business.. If you need money do it.. tats all about.. ( I never

refrain myself from doing this business).. I may also do this .. But the truth is it is not

good.. etically speaking..

:: Rational Thinker :: If I do this... I am doing false-business. This is the conclusion.

:: Rational Thinker :: But its upto me to do false-business or good-business..

:: Q-Net IR :: i dont want to get into ethical debate again -- I said its perspective and leave it .....

:: Rational Thinker :: There is no perspective view for the truth... the perspective view of truth may be false !

:: Q-Net IR :: there is nothing like a false business or good business ---- its a business --whether u make it

good or bad is in ur hands

:: Rational Thinker :: NO.. There is good and bad business... It exists...

:: Q-Net IR :: ok

:: Rational Thinker :: Do you say house rent in Chennai is good business?

:: Rational Thinker :: It is ethically false..

:: Q-Net IR :: indeed

:: Rational Thinker :: good in terms of money obtained by the owner..

:: Q-Net IR :: my motto in this business is to make my down lines earn money --- My attitude --- Its perfect ---

I can do this business without any shame on me

:: Rational Thinker :: Do you say getting dowry is good business? Absolutely no... BUT I WILL GET IF Required>> but I

will accept it is bad..

:: Q-Net IR :: Did u join TCS considering all the ethical aspects of it ?

:: Q-Net IR :: absolutely no

:: Rational Thinker :: I know tcs is giving pichakkara-money to its employees... it is ethically wrong.. I am suffering

because TCS's false-business. Even u

:: Q-Net IR :: exactly ........

:: Rational Thinker :: you have 3 options. die/less ethically wrong/more ethically wrong.. We will choose middle one.

Similar thing is tcs

:: Q-Net IR :: if u do a business of ur own -- What u frame is rules and what u recruit is employees

:: Q-Net IR :: the same is similar to QN

:: Q-Net IR :: if u like it join it if u dont like it stay away and watch the scene

:: Rational Thinker :: I know you need money.. So it’s always good for you to do this business... I will also go with

you. But you should know what you are doing. Tats it.

:: Q-Net IR :: yes I am aware of what I am doing

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